#38 – The Next Generation of Public Service with Max Fisher

Jan 20, 2026

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In this episode of The Clear Voice, host James Groom is joined by Clear Career Professionals President Michael Boese to welcome Max Fisher, a recent Texas Tech Master of Public Administration graduate and emerging local government professional. Together, they explore what the next generation of public service looks like and how cities can build stronger leadership pipelines.

Max shares his journey from considering law school to discovering a passion for city management, policy development, and community impact. He reflects on the transition from classroom theory to real world municipal leadership and how early career experiences in West Texas shaped his understanding of public administration. The discussion highlights the gap between academic preparation and daily City Hall operations, and why hands on learning remains essential for emerging leaders.

Michael Boese adds perspective from his work recruiting city managers, finance directors, and department leaders across Texas, particularly in West Texas communities that are building the future of municipal government. He emphasizes the role of mentorship, culture, and personal connection in helping young professionals find the right community and the right first opportunity.

The conversation explores how technology is changing government work while face to face relationships still drive effective leadership. Max discusses internships, early exposure to local government, and how cities can connect with students at the high school and college level to introduce careers in public administration, public works, utilities, and municipal finance.

This episode examines the leadership pipeline facing communities across Texas and the nation. Topics include workforce development, the role of MPA programs, attracting young professionals to municipal careers, and preparing for assistant city manager and city manager roles while staying grounded in humility and service.

If this conversation resonates with you, follow The Clear Voice on your favorite podcast platform and connect with Clear Career Professionals on LinkedIn for ongoing discussions about leadership and local government careers. You can also explore current municipal opportunities through our career portal to find places where your skills can make a real community impact.

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